Singing Zebra Dove
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: ***interview with Yi Na Mae (AAP) and Tholib (TL)***in http://www.nokkhao.com/
It’s a rare chance for us to meet a very good farm of Thailand which has been producing a very good vocal zebra dove for competition and breeding. They are on a very first position in a top farm for over 20 years. Many of small and new farms everywhere in Thailand and neighboring country use their blood line to produce a good vocal zebra dove. Tholib Farm and Yi Na Mae from Songkla and Pattani , a province recons as the origins and centre of trading and they keep related business going. generally vocal zebra dove not considered a main agricultural sector like other pet or farm animal . They are not popular and not many people can breed a good dove for competition. i have to say , it's so difficult to learn , too complicated to study and of course breeding a good vocal dove is such difficult as they have many factors to concern about . If someone can breed a very good ones that would gain a very high price than breeding other farm animal. For Tholib and Yi Na Mae they found ways to produce it and keep their reputation for long time. They are a farm model for everyone to learn. first of all , I’d like to thank you President of Barred Ground Dove Breeder Association of Thailand Mr. Sahusschai Indrasuksri for introducing me to interview them . thanks you both farms, it's good to know you . i know a fan of my website eager to read this .
farm owner : Yi Na Mae or Lajid of Nambang leg band code : AAP Province : Pattani
nokkhao.com : brief history
AAP : my farm established in 1980, from now on i have been running this for 27 years . i started this farm when I was 23 yrs and now I’m 49 yrs . it's just 1 pair i started from , at that time their has not many enthusiast like now . My farm focus on breeding A Class and B Class vocal zebra dove.
nokkhao.com : farm details
AAP : i have 7 assistants to watch and care 53 breeding aviary , monitoring, selecting and parings are my own duty
nokkhao.com : a first popular vocal zebra dove
AAP : my first popular is SaiDuen (a down to earth name for the meaning "earthworm" . he such a good vocal made every senior enthusiast to talk about) in 1990. About famous breeding aviary was from the pair in aviary number 4 and now aviary number 6 / 4 / 2 are producing good offspring too. They consider a good pair because they can produce 3-4 good bird from 10. It’s a good percentage to get bird like this as vocal zebra dove is not considered a pure breed, their can be different even u breed from a good pair. i have to monitor them and choose price for each quality. nokkhao.com : there was a good project that u work with enthusiast " Mr. Baba Bames" from Singapore . Would u please update for us? AAP : BaBa James is a very famous dove for his champion quality . This dove belongs to Mr. baba james . we bred this bird with TL4 and now we get F1 F2 F3 and F4 generations. too bad the stud is infertile because he's old and cannot produce anymore offspring. We sold all F1 in a good price and bred f2 f3 and got many A Class and B Class good vocal. One of our good birds sold to Mr. Dan Fitzgerald an aussie enthusiast to send this bird for competition in Asean Vocal Zebra Dove Competition and get top price. The dove name is Duntroon.
nokkhao.com : why your farm is so popular producing good dove for competition?
AAP : i have many friends and they also help me . There has many doves sold to many farm for breeding in Bangkok Yala Pattani Songkla and many province. recently B Class dove whose get a top position so often in Bangkok is from our product. and i just sold one good dove for Indonesian cost 500000 baht with age 5 month 5-6 steps , this dove is real good for having good melody good air suara.
nokkhao.com : any differences comparing breeding good vocal zebra dove in the past to breeding a new trend dove?
AAP : now there has many factors to concern about such as good steps, good melody , good air suara and so on . it's differs and more difficult from the past trend . i also buy other blood line from many farms to develope mine here. The size for breeding aviary i use 1.5 meters width * 2.20 meters height * 2.00 meters lenght . Suitable male age should be 1.5 years and female 8.00 month. There must be a good blood and most of factors we can control but only factor we cannot is lucky and destiny.
Farm Owner : Direk Dodazae or Tholib leg band code : TL province : songkla
nokkhao.com : brief history
TL : i have been running this farm for 20 years since 1985 started from 2 pairs from Chana Songkla . The name Tholib is from my nickname, i focus on breeding C Class and B Class vocal zebra dove.
nokkhao.com : farm details
TL : now i have 80 breeding aviary and have 2-3 assistant for feeding and cleaning . my task is monitoring , paring and selecting good dove.
nokkhao.com : first popular dove from your farm TL : the very famous one named PetchSalatun is a B Class bird who used to win many many prices such as number one place on Asean Vocal Zebra Dove Competition 2003 nokkhao.com : why your breeding aviary number 4 so famous in Thailand and neighboring country? TL : this aviary can produce a very good parents for many champions . Enthusiast from Indonesia used to buy once and they came back again to buy all of young birds from this aviary. Everyone pleased with quality from TL4 and i got good reputation from this.
nokkhao.com : are enthusiast from other countries have different method in choosing dove for competition?
TL : enthusiast from Indonesia like C Class bird with 5-6 good steps , good ending, beautiful melody . Some of them have some method to heal broken voice and they turn some quality to be a premium, that's amazing. For Malaysian and Singaporeans have the same method as Thais .
nokkhao.com : u just back from Singapore on trading would u please tell us about this? TL : i was on duty to send bird for my customer in Singapore . it just a few bird but they are a premium grade so i need to go there by myself . Most of Singaporean customer are Chinese enthusiast same as Malay enthusiast. Singapore i like to go for a big competition that arrange once a year in Singapore. nokkhao.com what is the best time to go to monitor birds in your farm? TL : the time birds sing quite often is about 10.00 am , u can hear them at this period . My farm have no branch just only in Chana , i have a room to monitor voice and there are about 40 birds to choose . Most of my bird in this listening room is about 3-4 month, price vary upon quality.
TL : the point is to get a good voice , my farm use 1 year age male & female , if keep them in a good condition and not breed much can use for about 4-5 years . About size of aviary unit is 1 meter width * 2.5 meter height * 2.00 meter lenght . A must for breeding is u need to use a very good bird to pair and wait for your luck. Different farm different purpose to breed a good zebra dove. It’s so good to talk to the most famous and successful farm. We respect their professional and their wisdom. It’s not that easy to produce a good bird for competition even having a good budget, timing and so study. Why most of farms mention “breeding vocal zebra dove should be link to luck” as the last factor to concern about. Is luck happen to these farms often? They hold a key to success? No one can explain clearly but what we know is this point becomes a charm that makes people want to discover and be success in a vocal zebra dove world. nokkhao facts - a very first person who can breed vocal zebra dove in thai history is mister Bin Jintana from Toongyai Village M.5 Tumbon BaanNa Chana Songkla in 1957 . Later Chana is the origin place where vocal zebra dove sire spreading until present. - talk of the java town in Indonesian perkutut world for Thai vocal zebra dove sire. The sire that indo talk to often is TL4. and there has many leading farm from Thailand can make a good reputation like AAP SDP KPP . Some of a good voice zebra dove in Indonesia can be found having a Thai blood line. Indo enthusiast use and develope them to serve the standards there which has been using for a long time. - Baba James is one of a superstar quality vocal zebra dove found in Thailand. He can won many many prices and get a very big price on 1st position of A Class category and All Best Vocal Category in Asean Competition 1997. He kept a leading position also in 1998 1999 and 2000 and no one can break such record!!!. He was sold to Singaporean enthusiast Mr. BaBa James. The owner name and bird name is the same along his passion and greatness. the bird was bought with highest price in Thai vocal zebra dove history for 1725000baht special thanks to : Mr. somchai sungrajai bangkok and Mr. Rraja Kota from Kelantan MalaysiaAlso very special thanks to : http://www.nokkhao.com/